Fascinating story from TPM. Here’s the key chart:

I find this fascinating. The obvious interpretation is that the religious right is driving people away from Christianity, and that the New Atheists are finding success with their efforts. I think that’s part of it. What also needs to be mentioned here is how these trends match up with the rise of self-help pastors and prosperity gospelers as the increasingly dominant face of Christianity. It’s not like those kinds of guys weren’t around before, but during the mid-to-late 2000s, Rick Warren and Joel Osteen (and head P.G.er T.D. Jakes) became gurus in the way that Billy Graham and Pat Robertson were in the 1970s and 1980s. Say what you like about the latter two, but they didn’t reduce the complexities of Christianity into a way of making life a bit less of a bummer. The former contingent largely have. My feeling from the start was that the self-help pastors were a direct response to the previous generation of Christian leaders, an attempt to combine largely the same right-wing ideas (both Warren and Osteen are culture warriors, they just don’t shout about it) with a comforting, more positive religious message. Really, Christian culture has been consciously moving in that direction ever since the mid-90s at least, when Christian Rock was exhaustively marketed as positive and uplifting (as tacitly opposed to that Kurt Cobain guy).

It might seem deeply perverse that people would be more repelled by honey than vinegar. After all, Gen X placed only slightly below the other generations in terms of belief in God, and they faced an even blunter barrage of awfulness from the old school of political preachers. But perhaps it’s not so strange. If Falwell and Robertson are the religious right’s figureheads, it’s easy enough for Christians of a more tolerant bent to dismiss them and go about their lives. But Osteen and Warren aren’t offering a white-hot vision of morality, sin and redemption, they’re basically offering what Dr. Phil offers, what Oprah used to offer, which is feel-good airiness (though with a hint of scripture, unlike Oprah, who would naturally include citations from The Secret). This is a very different dynamic. All that sin and redemption stuff has a deep resonance, whether you attribute it to a soul or merely to cultural conditioning. But self-help, feel-good material doesn’t really work the same way. My instinct (and I’m sure this is true of a lot of people too) is to be skeptical of such things, to assume it’s a heist or something that semi-smart people will read and talk about how it changed their lives, but when you watch them, they don’t actually seem any different. Such thing are generally a target for mockery. There aren’t very many people who treat Bryan Fischer or Tony Perkins (two of the more visible classic religious right types who don’t have nearly the clout that Warren and Osteen do) as nothing but a target for mockery, because what they say works people into an enormous lather, agree with them or not. Their take on humanity, however backward and bigoted, is at least rooted in reasonably universal and deep currents of the psyche. That it makes you and me angry to read, proves it. With the self-help pastors, there’s nothing even to get angry about, because there’s nothing to get excited about on the other side, either. If the point of Christianity is just to live a slightly happier life, people are going to just figure, why should I care? And the answer seems to be that they don’t.

Anyway, this news doesn’t really upset me too much. I wish the Atheists success, actually. John Lanchester argued in I.O.U. that capitalism became complacent after the Cold War ended because there was no longer any need to compete to prove it was the best system–it was now globally ascendant and the argument was settled. Since then, the complacency has been nonstop in the form of Enron and Lehman and Bear Stearns, etc.  A lack of competition breeds complacency, which is exactly what has happened in American religion. If Christians start to think they need to actually compete with Atheism in offering a compelling and nonreactionary creed instead of merely demonizing it, I don’t see how that’s a bad thing.

  1. The thing I love about that chart is that the question is “i never doubt the existence of god”. The fact that over 80% of people answer that question in the affirmative is such a steaming pile of horseshit. That is SUCH faith masturbation (i.e., getting off on how holy one perceives oneself to be).

    Come to think about it, perhaps this question could be flipped (and the responses changed to be, you know, FACTUAL) to be like the reliable joke about a poll on who admits to masturbating: “when asked if they ever doubt the existence of god, 99% said yes and the other 1% are lying.”

    All joking aside, if we use occam’s razor here, the simplest explanation for the numbers in that chart is that younger people today probably don’t feel as much community conformist pressure to be perfect little christian soldiers, which naturally leads to there being less bald-faced fucking liars (as compared to their parents’ generation) who would offer up such an obvious lie when asked that question.

    • I think that we are seeing a reaction to the huge group of so called “Christian” who can not live the life but are prepared to pass all kinds of laws to make everyone else try and lie what they cannot. If you are for passing laws to make people believe such and such religious dogma then you are not a Christian as you are suppose to be living your life as an example for others.

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