I always did like that Bruce Bartlett:

I can only conclude from this new poll of 2003 self-identified Republicans nationwide that between 20% and 50% of the party is either insane or mind-numbingly stupid. [or viscous, non-sentient sacks of human-like goo]
Sully responds:
Any party that could treat Sarah Palin as a serious candidate for the vice-presidency has lost its mind – almost as surely as she has lost what remains of hers. [...]

What you begin to realize is that on a whole host of issues, the GOP is going backward in areas of social tolerance, as they marinate in their own paranoia and purge every non-ideologue from their ranks. And as they go backward and feel, yes, left behind, their virulence and resentment intensify. It’s a classic fundamentalist response to modernity.

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  1. schu says:

    Republican's are insane. Look at their positions and all the lobbyist money. Greed is the only thing that they understand.

  2. Gherald says:

    I appreciated DIA's take

    But let's unpack this a bit before we write off rational conversation forever. Just 24% of the country currently calls itself Republican. We're seeing dual-causation here: as the party's most fervent believers believe more ridiculous things, those sensible ones leave. The remainder reinforce each other in extreme beliefs. In any case, the important point is that we should be dividing each of these numbers by four, when we ask how many Americans believe them: 15% think Mr Obama is a socialist, 10% think he should be impeached, 8% think he's a racist, and so on. Those figures don't make me panic. Really, this should give Republicans more pause than anyone. The party-identification number is down over Mr Obama's first year, and beliefs like this aren't likely to turn that around. Anybody who doesn't already believe these things isn't going to start by watching Mr Obama govern.

    And is Mr Bartlett right that 20-50% of this 24% is insane or stupid? I'd guess a big chunk of that group simply pays only passing attention to the news, not exactly reading the whole A section of their newspaper daily. So where do they get their views? Remember, though they don't read much, they're committed Republicans, having stayed with the badly battered ship. When they do tune in, they're likely to go for cable news or talk radio, and what they hear is only what Republican leaders—and we can include media leaders—tell them. If they'd learned the actual facts of things, and still concluded Mr Obama is a socialist racist foreigner, that would indeed make them insane. But they haven't. And not being a news junkie doesn't make them stupid, contra Mr Bartlett. They value their jobs, families and non-wonky hobbies over reading the New Yorker or even the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

    The conclusion that remains is that the Republican leadership (including that media leadership) is deeply irresponsible. When those passingly-informed people check in briefly, for the health of the country, they'd better be getting a few responsible messages to absorb. Instead, people in nice suits with great hair and a television gig—things that used to go along with sober authority—are telling them that the president cares more about Miranda-ising terrorist Muslims than he does about dead American babies. The viewers have never heard this kind of thing before. But this is not because of a once-in-a-lifetime radical president. It's because of a once-in-a-lifetime irresponsible party elite. Blame the bosses, not the masses.

    • Metavirus says:

      i have a hard time letting ignorant sacks of non-sentient goo off the hook that easily. it's all well and good to tut-tut the big powerful people who should know better, but one of the fundamental responsibilities of a citizen in a republic is to have at least a minimum standard of information. if they're too diaffected, racist, ignorant, or lazy to go out and get some real information from time to time (and, gasp, think for themselves for 0.001% of the day), then I have no pity for them -- especially when their ignorance has real, life -changing consequences. (picture Palin VP Round 2!)

      I still remember with fondness a bumper sticker I found in high school: "The Masses Are Dumb Asses"

      • Gherald says:

        No cause for pity, but calling someone who is a loyal Republican but feels they have better things to do with their time than be an informed citizen an "ignorant sack of non-sentient goo" isn't constructive either.

        one of the fundamental responsibilities f a citizen in a republic is to have at least a minimum standard of information

        Yes…the appropriate adjectives for them are "uninformed and irresponsible".

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