Andrew highlights a fascinating interview with Ted Olson, the conservative Bush v. Gore lawyer now fighting to overturn the California gay marriage ban:

I hope some people will open their eyes to the decency of getting to the point where we allow gay and lesbian individuals to be married and have a happy life… I am getting comments from some segments of the society who feel that it’s the wrong thing to do and I’m betraying the conservative cause and things that I’ve stood for in my life. Some of it is quite hostile. But that goes with the territory. On the other hand, I’m hearing from people, including plenty of Republicans, who are very, very grateful. It has been overwhelmingly gratifying to hear from very decent people who are touched by the fact that we’re trying to help.

A woman came up to me in our library in our law firm and said, “You and I haven’t worked together, but I’m a lesbian. My partner and I have two children.” And she burst into tears. I put my arm around her and she put her arms around me. This stands for what we’re trying to accomplish here. It’s a principle, but it’s a principle that deeply touches human beings. If we’re successful, we can help the lives of literally millions of people. And what a great service that would be.

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  1. schu says:

    As long as the bigots who disguise themselves as Christians can preach hate and distort the facts we will be fighting an uphill battle to recognize a same sex civil ceremony.

    • Gherald says:

      Sigh, I think this is wrongheaded in three respects:

      - Bigotry and Christianity are not exclusive.

      - Bigots--Christian or otherwise--will always be able to preach hate and distort facts--at least insofar as we're operating under the Constitution I'm familiar with. What matters is how others respond.

      - I don't see grounds for thinking the fight against such hate is an uphill battle. On the contrary, over time--and especially over generations--I think people are persuadable by reason. In the case of homosexuality and same-sex marriage, I would think Generation Y is proof enough of this.

      In other words, while the arc of history may be long, it is not uphill. It bends downhill. Towards justice.

      • Metavirus says:

        hmm, i like that construct. it makes me think of a river slowly eroding its way down a canyon over time.

      • schu says:

        Of course bigotry and Christianity are not exclusive but as a Christian I have a great deal of difficulty in bigots preaching hatred getting away with calling themselves Christians. If you are a Christian then you cannot be a bigot and remain true to your faith. And I know they are allowed to preach their hatred under the constitution and part of my response to their hatred is my objection to them using Christianity as a cover for their hatred. And I am happy that you seem complacent enough in your thoughts that we are making progress for I do not have your confidence in mans ability to use reason to overcome hatred. We are trying to overcome a systematic knee jerk response of hatred.

  2. kevinista says:

    I know that the libertarian tucker carlson is also for gay marriage…I think as long as we explain the cause and be respectful, we can convince conservatives that gay marriage is not the end of the world.

    • Metavirus says:

      oh jeez, tucker carlson is as much of a libertarian as i am a Flying Walrus Popsicle Meteor. never accept the labels people put on themselves without skepticism

      • Gherald says:

        I don't know much about Tucker, but here's Wikipedia:

        On May 3, 2007, Carlson interviewed Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul and recalled voting for Paul in 1988 when he was running as the Libertarian Party presidential candidate.

        On November 20, 2007, Carlson was seen showing his support at a Ron Paul rally in Reno, Nevada.

        On November 26, 2007, it was reported that Carlson lobbied Nevada brothel owner Dennis Hof to support Paul's candidacy. Explained Carlson, "Dennis Hof is a good friend of mine, so when we got to Nevada, I decided to call him up and see if he wanted to come check this guy out."

        On September 2, 2008, Carlson participated in Ron Paul's Campaign for Liberty Rally for the Republic in Minneapolis, MN, as the first speaker to introduce the rally and also acted as the MC by introducing nearly every guest speaker.

        On February 23, 2009, Carlson was introduced as a senior fellow for the Cato Institute.

        Anyhow, show me a 'libertarian' who's against gay civil marriage but for straight civil marriage and I'll show you a non-libertarian.

        • Metavirus says:

          who knows, maybe tucker has seen the light, maybe it's all just strategic PR. but when it comes to tucker's commentary during the bush years, he was a vocal proponent of all the statist excesses of the Bush administration and was a reliably shrill voice on the right for the notion that Republican hegemony could do no wrong. i suspect he may be trying to shrink back from an association with the GOP now that so much of what he advocated for turned out to be horribly wrong. it's much more fashionable to be a libertarian today than it is to be a republican.

        • schu says:

          It really bothers me that someone will use Wikipedia as a source because anyone can change the entrees in it. At least if you use Fox or the National Enquirer the source material cannot be changed by someone else.

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