Lest people start getting too many ideas about me being some kind of wild-eyed liberal, let me point out that my strong libertarian/anti-hippie streak reads stuff like this and cringes:

San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom last week signed legislation that will require both city residents and businesses, including restaurants, to compost food scraps, beginning this fall.

Believed to the first mandatory composting law in the nation, the legislation is part of the city’s broader plan to divert 75 percent of resources from landfills by 2010 and to achieve zero waste by 2020.

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  1. Kevin says:

    oh yeah, a guy who supports public option, is libertarian :P

    but I agree, this kind of stuff is very stupid, we gotta target business to make the difference, not private people

  2. schu says:

    Lets see now, you live in an apartment, a condo, or even if your whole yard is 25’ x 25’ where are you going to compost? I mean I compost, but we live in suburbia. No wonder California is so screwed up.

  3. PChun says:

    Hey, you turkeys! The goal is to decrease the piles of trash in the land fills, right? Actually, isn't compost the best thing in there, and the forever-plastics some of the worst?? I support the goal of less trashing up our planet, and less trash in the land fills, but resist forced composting….on my balcony?!? Possible for the die-hards, but as realistic as "no jaywalking".

  4. Gherald says:

    I appreciate the humor, but I'm with Schwenkler who defended this a few weeks ago.

    It's arguably an example of government efficiency: it does not ask people to compost in their backyard, only to use a separate container for organic compounds.

    You (probably) already separate your recyclables, and is that something you object to on libertarian grounds? Because this is no different.

    So nay, you're just being anti-hippie >_>

    • schu says:

      Gherald, if they do mean that compost items just go into another container, to be composted at another site, I am all for that. My son lives in Seattle and they have a similar project, because when I visited him last Christmas he said that they had three trash container, one for landfill, one for recyclables, and one for compost. This is an idea that I would support. Just outside Elkhart IND, where I live, we have two huge mountains dug up for buried landfill. One a county landfill and one a private landfill. It would seem that this posting is rather misleading as I thought that they were required to compost their own material.

      • Metavirus says:

        just readin what i read. i understand recycling because it keeps a substantial amount of bulky nonbiodegradable stuff out of the landfills. but compost? from private people? i hate to venture a guess but i can't imagine coffee grounds and bread crusts amount to that much mass in the landfill — besides which it all degrades away after a short while anyway. the problem i have with this is that (a) random condo dwellers like me would have to buy a new lidded can to keep the smelly shit in for a while (what, am i supposed to take the shit out every DAY!?), (b) this is going to lead to more plastic bag usage (how else to get the shit to the outside new garbage container i need to buy (c) this reeks of feckless feel-goodism and (d) i have my suspicions that SF did this as a big revenue generator — the are going to sell the compost to private industry and pocket tons of money in fines.

        • Gherald says:

          Yes schu, FTA: "Under the new rules, businesses and residents will face fines ranging from $100 to $500 if they don’t separate their garbage into recyclables, compostables and trash in designated containers."

          LG, I'd say it makes as much sense for private individuals as recycling…

          What do you normally do with your shit? You don't have to take it out any more frequently--you just put it in a separate bin like recyclables. Not a big deal.

          When was the last time you heard of someone fined for not recycling? Maybe some jurisdictions are worse than others, but from my experience I don't expect pocketing tons of money in fines to be in the cards.

        • schu says:

          Acutely the City of Elkhart does compost all of the tree leaves that it collects in the fall, and then, what they do not use for the parks and flowered walk ways, they offer free to the citizens on a first come first serve basis. They used to get buried in the land fill. Also trash sealed in plastic bags does take a long time to breakdown. And while we do not have recycling in the county, I do take plastic and cardboard down to the recycle bins at Wal-Mart, just so they do not fill up my trash container. After all I do I have to pay for my own trash pick up. I suppose the thing that sticks in my craw is the fines. But then a friend of mine says that he does not recycle because the recycling companies make a fortune off it and he does not make anything from that. But the I remained the lazy old wolverine the money in recycling comes from the government contracts not from the actual recyclables.

  5. vjack says:

    I wish we had something like that here. We don't even have curbside recycling.

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