You just have to watch this to appreciate it:



O’Donnell’s premise is pretty unassailable. He points out that, unlike the howls of protest now greeting President Obama due to his pro-choice stance, President Bush — who ordered the deaths of people via the death penalty, ventured into a war of choice in Iraq against the pleas of the Pope, and signed off on the torture of countless detainees — was welcomed to speak at Notre Dame without a peep of protest from the Catholic hierarchy. For the first time I can remember, Pat Buchanan is caught with his pants down. Liberals really seem to be feeling their oats right about now…

Update: Here’s a little bit of grist for the mill on the topic of the Catholic Church’s varying positions on abortion over time:

Many religions, including many denominations within Christianity, have adopted the general principle that abortion is a form of murder if it is performed at or after the time that a soul enters the body of an embryo or fetus. Down through the ages, beliefs varied about when this “animation” happened.

Various church authorities and popes placed the time at:

  • At a specific time into pregnancy (40 days, 80 days, 116 days), or
  • Quickening (when the woman first feels the fetus move), or
  • At conception.
  1. Kevin says:

    like I said in my twitter as I was watching live, I was amazed how Lawrence was getting the thoughts right out of my head, nice to have an aggressive liberal without coming out as crazy

    btw you can tell when buchanan is beaten, he starts sipping his water, Ive seen it before on previous discussions

    • Donna says:

      Kevin, are you kidding? O'Donnell showed just how crazy and ignorant he is! The Catholic Church does not favor unjust war or the death penalty, but there is no Canon Law against either one! Why? Because there are cases where a just war or the use of the death penalty might be necessary to save innocent lives! Therefore, war and the death penalty are not intrinsic evils. Abortion, on the other hand, ALWAYS involves the killing of innocent, helpless unborn babies and is therefore, intrinsically evil. Notice how that crazy, ranting O'Donnell wouldn't shut his mouth long enough for Buchanan's reply? Typical liberal response to the voices of reason and decency: shout above them!

  2. Peg Chun says:

    WOW! this will be one of Pat's big stum-stumbles. He couldn't present a cogent defensible argument because there isn't one.

  3. commonsense says:

    George Bush is ok "because he allowed the death penalty to be executed."

    Well, so did Pontius Pilot.

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