Obama, right on the money:

“Now, in the past few days I’ve heard criticisms of this plan that echo the very same failed theories that helped lead us into this crisis — the notion that tax cuts alone will solve all our problems; that we can ignore fundamental challenges like energy independence and the high cost of health care and still expect our economy and our country to thrive.

“I reject that theory, and so did the American people when they went to the polls in November and voted resoundingly for change. So I urge members of Congress to act without delay. No plan is perfect, and we should work to make it stronger. But let’s not make the perfect the enemy of the essential. Let’s show people all over our country who are looking for leadership in this difficult time that we are equal to the task.”

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  1. Let's be intellectually honest here. Bush had 51 months of uninterrupted job growth, the longest in this nation's history, after inheriting a recession from the tail-end of the Clinton administration and after 9/11. This was ended by the housing bubble, created in large part by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, two governmentally backed institutions, that were encouraged largely by Democrats, to give risky sub-prime mortgages to unqualified buyers.

    How can you deny tax cuts, allowing people to keep more of their own money, does not stimulate the economy? It doesn't matter what they do with it, whether they store it away in a bank (then hey we don't need to bail out the banks do we) or whether they spend it, then it is providing economic stimulus for someone in the private sector, and generating taxable revenue anyway. This is how you stimulate an economy.

    You don't stimulate an economy with a wasteful trillion dollar spending package. Especially when the bipartisan vote in the House was against this package with 11 Democrats agreeing with all of the Republicans. The more people learn about this spending package, the more the public support for it has evaporated.

    • Metavirus says:

      You said: "How can you deny tax cuts, allowing people to keep more of their own money, does not stimulate the economy?"

      Who's denying that? Did you notice that there are hundreds of billions of dollars of tax cuts in the stimulus bill? The argument from a majority of economists is that direct spending is at least twice as stimulative as tax cuts.

      You said: "You don't stimulate an economy with a wasteful trillion dollar spending package."

      Leaving aside the "wasteful" part (which is in the eye of the beholder), spending is exactly how you stimulate the economy. In normal times, the economy is "stimulated" by consumer spending. In horrid economic times such as we're in now, consumer spending has dropped off a cliff and is no longer driving the economy. At times like this, we need need government spending to right the ship so that consumer spending has the time to pick back up.

      • Agreed, but we better make sure the spending that comes from the government is the right kind of spending. Lower income taxes will generate more private income spending which is part of the issue now.

        Direct spending by the government is twice as stimulative as tax cuts? If that is true for any government spending, it certainly isn't automatically true for all of it. What they spend it on matters. Taxpayers are paying for any government spending. It comes out of our paychecks.

        The complaint is about the wasteful part. I'm not arguing there should be no spending, and I'm encouraged by the tax cuts that are included, but the wasteful part has the potential to negate the good parts of the bill.

        http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/04/c…

        • Metavirus says:

          You said: "Direct spending by the government is twice as stimulative as tax cuts? If that is true for any government spending, it certainly isn't automatically true for all of it. What they spend it on matters. Taxpayers are paying for any government spending. It comes out of our paychecks."

          I agree the proposition isn't 100% true. One reason why many economists find tax cuts to be less stimulative than direct government spending is the Paradox of Thrift ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_thrift). Generally, if we cut people's tax in a recession, consumers will squirrel away a huge amount of they receive for a rainy day rather than actually put it back into the economy. Not so with government spending outlays.

          You said: "The complaint is about the wasteful part. I'm not arguing there should be no spending, and I'm encouraged by the tax cuts that are included, but the wasteful part has the potential to negate the good parts of the bill."

          I agree with the general proposition that waste is bad. However, with a bill this big (and both Republicans and Democrats in Congress being all-too-often mind-numbingly corrupt), some waste is going to creep in. The question we have to ask ourselves is whether we think the bill should be somewhat overly big or somewhat overly small? If the bill is too small and doesn't do enough to stimulate the economy, millions more will be/remain out of work and the recession will last for a much longer time than if we did the right thing. I am okay with paying off some waste when we're back on our feet. I am not ok with dithering about $250 million here and $50 million there until the cows come home, if the end result is that families are ruined by a recession that went on too long.

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